Towards a Southern national church

It seems that Southern nationalists should have several long-term goals that we generally agree upon. The Southern people should have:

  • A Southern national party to promote our national interests and represent ourselves to other groups
  • A Southern national church to carry on the religious tradition of our people and meet our people’s spiritual needs
  • A Southern national university to provide for the higher educational needs of our people in a positive environment
  • A Southern national state as a sovereign territory populated and governed by and for Southerners
  • A Southern national military to defend our people from outside threats and ensure the sovereignty of our national state

In regards to a Southern national church, we once had this, though sadly it was divided by denomination. Each of the major Protestant denominations in the South split from the US denominations either prior to secession or during the life of the Confederacy and then maintained their independence and a generally conservative, traditionalist direction.

ANGLICANS

The Protestant Episcopal Church in the Confederate States of America was formed in 1861 and lasted until 1865 when it reunited with Northern Episcopalians. Leonidas Polk was both a bishop of the denomination and a Confederate general. President Jefferson Davis was a Southern Anglican. After the US military conquest of the South Bishop Thomas F. Davis of South Carolina continued to oppose reunification with Northern Episcopalians but was too elderly and sick to effectively lead the struggle. In 2009 hundreds of conservative diocese in the US and Canada left the very liberal Protestant Episcopal Church in the United States and Anglican Church of Canada to form the Anglican Church in North America. This split occurred in Texas. The Anglican Diocese of the South was formed a year later in Georgia. It currently has 46 parishes.

BAPTISTS

The Southern Baptist Convention was formed in 1845 and has nearly 16 million members today. In much of the South it is the dominant religious denomination, though its national governing body has moved in a decidedly liberal and anti-Southern direction of late.

METHODISTS

The Methodist Episcopal Church, South was formed in 1844 and only rejoined Northern Methodist churches in 1939. The Southern Methodist Church was formed a year later in 1940 by conservative, pro-Southern Methodist Christians to maintain the traditions of the Methodist Episcopal Church, South. It has about 6,000 members.

PRESBYTERIANS

The Presbyterian Church in the Confederate States of America was formed in 1861 and lasted until 1983, though it changed its name after the US military conquest of the South. In 1973 hundreds of churches in the Lower South left the increasingly liberal Presbyterian Church in the US and formed the Presbyterian Church in America. It currently has over 1,800 congregations. The modern Southern nationalist movement was closely tied in its early days to conservative Presbyterianism.

LUTHERANS

The General Synod of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in the Confederate States of America was formed in 1863, under went several name changes and finally rejoined Northern Lutherans in 1918. Some of my leading Southern nationalist friends today are members of conservative Lutheran churches.

ROMAN CATHOLICS

Many Roman Catholic leaders throughout the South supported the Confederate cause. In general, the church’s conservative and hierarchical values fit well with Southern traditional life. Pope Pius IX granted President Jefferson Davis the highest international recognition of the Confederacy that it ever received. There remain many pro-Southern, traditionalist parishes in Dixie today and several of my Southern nationalist Roman Catholic friends are actively involved in the church.

Also see: Towards a Southern national church (part II)

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  1. I really appreciate the tone of the articles on this site and information I get from them. I wish everyone in the WN movement read this site.

    I agree that we need a movement that involves having our own party, church and military. I think a lot of young men join the military as a substitute for traditional initiation rituals into adult hood. Join the military and become a man as the saying goes. Which would be ok if we still controlled the US military but we don’t and our people are used as cannon fodder for a greater israel.

    We need a place to train our young White men to become soldiers in our militias and give them the job of defending our borders and eventually defending us from the US multi cultural military that will no doubt be used to disarm and starve us.

    We need a media channel in order to provide White people a place to get information and to organize. Right now we have no single source but we see the need for it in the response that Donald Trump is getting. The people are here we just need a way to rally and to plan and organize all of this. The major media pretends that everyone is liberal and supports what is being done to us but if we had our own media we could demonstrate that isn’t so.

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  2. I am an Genesis to Revelation believing, non-denominational, independent Christian (aka fundamentalist) I have always wondered why people have a need for organized religion when no where in the bible is any of the current main stream denominations ordained or even implied by God. So how is it that an organized state sponsored religion necessary for the spiritual needs of the southern citizens? This could lead to something along the lines of the Church of England and we all know how that was started.

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    • My view is that the church as a single institution saved Western Civilization after the collapse of Rome and defended Europe from the Mongols, Arabs and others. A bunch of tiny, bickering denominations couldn’t have done that. We saw that the rise of Puritanism threw the British Isles into chaos, leading to Cromwell’s dictatorship and a long, bloody war. None of that was necessary. Puritanism led to nothing positive. The South was strongest when it was largely Anglican. And all the original Southern colonies were Anglican, unlike the Northern colonies which were dominated by small, strange and non-traditional denominations. In my view, a Southern national church would enshrine Christianity into the political and cultural fabric of our people. It would help distinguish us, connect us to our ancestors, and stand as a bulwark against Islam, Christian Zionism and the numerous bizarre cults out there such as LDS and Jehova’s Wittness.

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      • “the Northern colonies which were dominated by small, strange and non-traditional denominations.” So what I see you saying is that my non-denominational beliefs is kin to being a notherner. You are spiritually ignorant when it comes to Biblical understanding. And to denigrate Christians who are non-denominational as ” A bunch of tiny, bickering denominations” underscores you true lack of understanding of what it means to have ‘FAITH’ in God’s word.

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        • I am not attacking you or your beliefs, VS. You do not come from that strange New England religious tradition.

          I fully understand that most Southerners today are closer theologically to you than me. And I am not here to insult our people. I am merely pointing out historical trends and offering my perspective on what would be of most help to our people. Others are free to disagree with me. There is room for a variety of opinions on such issues within the SN movement. We ought to be able to politely discuss these things in the bonds of national and Christian fellowship.

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    • I agree with a lot of what you’re saying, personally I was raised a Roman Catholic, but fell away disillusioned by the changes in the Church that occurred previous to even my lifetime. To make matters worse several Protestant denominations in my town are not quite following the Bible with one having a female “minister” and their splinter group allowing homosexual marriages.
      Yet in spite of all of these I can still understand the need for a Church of the South. Such a Church would be another institution that would link us all together, and bring us closer as not only brothers and sisters of a single Faith, but also a single people. Also I think that such a unified Southern Church would further the argument of our people being distinct and it would promote not only the ideas we have now, but also our bloodlines. Could we get along without such a Church perhaps, or perhaps if we had such a Church it would actually hurt us, but right now all of this is only theoretical.

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  3. The great importance of the church is that it’s a culture making and preserving instution. Ultimately, the alien, Northern influences, such as Dispensationalism and Puritan theocratic notions, must be purged from Southern piety for this reason. The church, along with the family and academic institutions, must be the repository of our culture. And its chief defenders.

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  4. I agree with these principles, and, frankly, if we do not try for these things, how would it work?

    With regards to ‘separation between church and state’, and the worries about some here with regards to the sitemaster’s proposal, I have come to believe that this (the separationof church and state) is not, on the whole good.

    The central tenet of Southern culture is Christianity. Any skirting around that is simply betraying who we are and what we have always tried to be.

    I’m sorry. I do not wish to offend any here, but, any prospective Southern nation, even in the abstract, without Christinity at the core, would either be a farce, or, soon enough, just become a mirror image of the same Yankee government from which we sought to separate ourselves.

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  5. Sir,

    Tonght I took my wife and daughter on an adventure – to a country church about 5 miles from our little town.

    Never had been there, but, one of the congregation lives in town, and she is such a fine person, I thought, in spite of the fact I am Orthodox, we might give it a go.

    We arrove for Wednesday prayer meeting and we greeted like long lost relatives – in an atmosphere of such true Christian community, most, across the USA would not recognize having been in such if there were there!

    As coincidence would have it, tonight’s lesson was on Romans chapter 13 – ‘respecting government and giving it is just due’, as God’s justly appointed representative.

    Not just from the fact we were surrounded by right-thinking God -fearing people, but, I knew it was the right place, because the people there had a very revealing conversation about how things have gone, in recent decades, in this country.

    When I succinctly stated my view, which you well know, it was very well received.

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