Jefferson wasn’t right (part II)

Southern social theorist George Fitzhugh (1806-1881) writes of Thomas Jefferson in Cannibals All! or Slaves Without Masters:

The true greatness of Mr. Jefferson was his fitness for revolution. He was the genius of innovation, the architect of ruin, the inaugurator of anarchy.

…The annals of revolutionary Virginia were illustrated by three great and useful men. The mighty mind of Jefferson, fitted to pull down; the plastic hand of Madison to build up; and the powerful arm of Washington to defend, sustain, and conserve.

To put the above quotes in context we should remember that Fitzhugh considers American independence from London as a natural and conservative action. He likens the colonies to mature adults leaving home and striking out to establish their own lives. But he believes that Enlightenment-inspired philosophers such as Jefferson hijacked the revolution with their talk of universal equality and the “rights of men” and endangered everything with their radical rhetoric. He sees Jefferson as a genius but someone who attacked the foundations of society and civilization.

Also see: Jefferson wasn’t right (part I)



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  1. Sir, Fitzhugh’s perspective on Jefferson speaks for me.

    That said, I do know that God himself could have written the founding documents, and the North would pick and choose from it, to subjugate us according to their most recent moral imperatives (whims)

    Nothing is a guard against the North, except the knowledge of what you disseminate, and that which Mr. Owen, Pace, Jay, Anti-Federalist, and I agree with here.

    Without this knowledge, we must remain their ‘first colonial possession’, as they will have it no other way.

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        • Thank you, Sir, for the kind inquiry. Perhaps your old SNN site, purveyed by Discus, was more efficient at recording remarks and the authors, though, not being a ‘technical person’, I do not know why this is.

          That said, I like the changes you have made, by switching to the Southern Future format here, in that , your new format de-emphasizes a kind of high school ‘ra-ra’ football fight quality to the exchange, and, along with it, reduces the repetitive negativity mongering that seemed to come with that previous format.

          Here the negativity, analytical criticism, seems more constructive, though, again, I did enjoy many things about the previous site, not the least of which were the postings.


        • Thanks, JD. I do miss some things about SNN but SF is far easier to operate. It is just a simple little blog. Doesn’t get nearly as many hits but I am happy with it.


    • You’re right. Our biggest folly wasn’t necessarily independence from the UK but rather throwing our lot in with the North. Everything bad that has since happened follows from that awful mistake.


      • After following you and Mr. Griffin for several years, I have grown accustomed to thinking of The South, as I subconsciously always suspected, but never consciously regarded – as a nation of it’s own – much as Scotland from England, and, thus, deserving of it’s full sovereignty.

        I am, however, mindful of the fact that this thinking is almost entirely alien to most of my fellow North Carolinians, with whom, when we converse, are utterly taken aback by even the hint of such a view. This thinking, as of 2015, is very esoterick – as, indeed, is my anachronistick spelling:)

        In this process, Sir, I am reminded about the difficult need to remember where one is, in the scheme of things, and where others are.


  2. In response to Mr. Daniel, my education and upbringing never allowed me to think of the South as anything but a distinct nation. And the North as anything but enemy territory.

    I was ten in 1978, when the Northern transplants started to flood my town here on the Red River. What we affectionately call “Texomaland.” However, our teachers had started their careers in the late Fourties. Many were close to retirement. But they all taught and reinforced Southern values and culture. We only had Texas flags in our classrooms, and never said the POA. We only sang patriotic Texas and Southern songs. We even sang “Kill that Yankee Soldier” and “Yellow Rose of Texas.” In HS, we wore our Confederate gear and Southern symbols without complaint or shame. Students who had transferred in from Louisiana, Arkansas, Missouri and South Carolina, to name a few, where welcomed as our fellow countrymen. However, We made the Northern transplants nervous and uncomfortable. We made the Yankee kids conform to our ways, not the other way around. Many of them left for college in the North, and never came back.

    I’m a Southern Nationalist because I was raised to be one. Southern Culture and “American” culture were one and the same. The Northern values that are forced on us as “American”, aren’t. They’re foreign. People who didn’t know what Dr Pepper was, or put peanuts in their coke, or eat moon pies, were foreign to my young self back then. They still are.

    Thomas Jefferson’s theories, in an independent South, would have never carried much weight. At least there would have been no Yankees to twist it into poison, or use it as a weapon against the Southern people. Northerners are not interested in the Constitution or in the Southern founding fathers, they naturally and rightfuly find such things and personages as foreign, except where such can be used to attack the Southern people politically, or reinforce Northern rule.


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